Photo by Ashley Larson
I am a longtime fan
of your work with Band of Susans, but to be honest I wasn’t aware of your solo
work until I heard “Perseverance and Grace”, and it’s quite a corker of a
record! I understand that its genesis came out of celebrating your 60th
birthday last year. What inspired you to
look to your past for this album?
Thank you for the props on P and G! It’s the follow up of my
first solo album, Western Holiday, which came out in 2014, when I was 58 and a
half! That was preceded by a 15-year
hiatus while I left active playing and went back to school and became a
physician. Then the movie It Might Get Loud came out in 2009, and the itch to
play again was suddenly overwhelming. So from 2009 I was getting up to speed on
guitar, writing and exploring, and here we are!
I don’t know if you’ve hit 60 yet, but from 58 on, it did
feel like a looming milestone; one of taking stock of the past and calculating
the future, as in “ how much time do I have left to do the things I want to
do?” That should be an everyday question, but turning 60 really brought it on.
It was irresistible to me to try to get a second record out by that landmark,
which was in late October 2015. Well, it didn’t quite get out, but the record
was done by then, so the need was satisfied.
There seems to be a
resurgence in interest lately in the late-70s, early-80s Minneapolis punk scene
– Bob Mould put out one of the best albums of his career this year, the Suicide
Commandos are back in the studio for the first time in 38 years, and the
Replacements’ story finally got the treatment it deserved in Bob Mehr’s great
biography. You worked pretty closely with legendary Minneapolis
producer/bassist Steve Almaas on the album – what was it like growing up in
that scene and working with Steve again?
Growing up in the late 70s Minneapolis scene felt like being
one of the cool kids in school, hanging out with people everyone seemed to want
to know. I felt like the Longhorn Bar and that music scene were the center of the
universe. It was exciting and invigorated.
After the Commadoes split, Steve Almaas put together The
Crackers with me on guitar, and later with Mitch Easter as well. The band moved
out to NYC in the summer of 1979. From there we played the city, toured the
East Coast a bit, and made an EP. After the band split up Steve and I were in
passing but not close contact for many years.
Then the urge to make music again hit, and I had the
beginnings of 2-3 songs. I immediately thought of Steve as the absolute best
person to help me get things moving. My initial idea was to record 4 songs for video
with me on guitar in a band with a singer, to post to Youtube—that was the
beginning and the end of my plan. I e-mailed
Steve out of the blue and he was intrigued, immediately broadened the horizon of
the project to: 1. Must make an album. 2. Must be both singer and guitarist. Working
with Steve has been as productive as I thought it could be, and more. He has
the great ability to see what a song’s potential might be despite a rough demo
or a half-formed idea. He has been defining, encouraging and nurturing at the
same time and his work as both producer and player have been irreplaceable.
To those who know you
primarily from your work with Band of Susans or your work in Rhys Chatham’s
guitar-orchestras, your playing on this album might surprise them – it’s very
rootsy, grounded and Americana-indebted (particularly on songs like open “Cowgirl
Clothes” or “Tornado”). For lack of a
better word, it’s very “buoyant”. I
assume that your playing continues to evolve – what influenced the songs and
your guitar work to take this direction?
The songs themselves have come out of a couple places—one is
the realities of city life and my work life, the other is out of my experiences
out West, riding at dude ranches, listening to the wranglers, going to the
rodeo. I hear the guitar work as directly progressing out of my playing with
Rhys, and with the Susans. When I started playing again I gravitated towards
open D tuning and fingerstyle to give my playing a fullness that I was used to
getting in a multi-guitar band setting. The open D droning undercore pushes the
songs along, and I’ll admit I’m sloppy sometimes just to pick up a little
dissonance along the way…..
I imagine your songs are like
children – it’s tough to choose one above the others. But let’s say you are
asked to make a “Sophie’s Choice”; is there one that you are particular proud
to have written or one that is particularly special to you?
You are right about the children aspect—I am pretty proud of
them all! On Perseverance and Grace it’s Cowgirl Clothes. I think……don’t get me
started…….
Your “day job” is as
an oncologist in New York City, but you’ve remained involved in both the art
and music worlds. How do you strike the
balance between meeting the needs of your job (which I have to imagine is
incredibly taxing) and nurturing this other, creative part of your life? As a bit of a professional polymath, is there
an area of music or art which you haven’t delved into that you would like to
explore?
Oh man, I have little art projects that pop into my head and
I just write the ideas down, and hope if they bother me long enough I will make
something out of them. I also want to have a cooking blog, but can’t seem to
fit that in yet. As of now, playing guitar and writing songs has become part of
my routine. There are many times when there IS no balance; patient needs are
number one. But that is not all the time; it has worked for me to write a
couple songs, then demo them on GarageBand and then get a framework down of
drums and scratch guitar and vocals in the studio, and chip away at them
piecemeal. But I think most of the time, people make time for the things they
REALLY want to do, and if you didn’t find the time, it wasn’t that high on the
list. I tell myself that all the time.
What’s on tap for you
next?
Going to be playing live this fall in the New York area,
rehearsing with a great band! CP Roth on drums, Amy Madden on bass, Tom
McCaffrey on guitar, Melody Rabe on vocals. I can’t wait to translate these
songs to live performance! And the writing continues—I have songs in various
states of doneness, working on the next group of 16 or so to decide what to put
out next, in the 1-2 year range. Art and
video along the way!
